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So, what is Therapist Uncensored all about?

We have fun translating the complex relational sciences and psychology into understandable and practical tools that can give you the power you need to uncover your best self. (Believe us, your people will be so happy.)

We will help you understand how to recognize and then update unconscious expectations of yourself and others. Applying the science of modern attachment and relational neurobiology can have life-changing impacts on your mind, your choice of partners, your parenting, your social relationships, your work life and how you interact in the world.

Sounds too good to be true, but fortunately the science is very clear, and hopeful… and we want everyone to have access to it.

And as if that's not enough goodness, team Therapist Uncensored is working to dismantle our undeserved privilege in various ways but one is financial.  A full 50% (!) of all income from corporate sponsors and merch sales goes to non-profit organizations that provide access to mental health services for those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare. Our Neuronerd Patrons support the production of the show so that we together can accomplish this mission and help us make it happen, and they also vote at the end of the year for the charity for the year.  

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Over Nine million+ downloads (what?!)

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Attachment Therapist Rockstars!

The way I describe this podcast to others is in one episode of this podcast, I feel I learn more then any day of a training I’ve been too. I love the nuance, the expertise, the ability to weave this subject matter to make it useful as well as nonjudgmental, while normalizing the feelings associated. This is my first review on any podcast and maybe my last, because this body of work speaks for itself and is too important to not say anything. Sooo good! 👏

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2023-09-18T10:23:41-05:00

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The way I describe this podcast to others is in one episode of this podcast, I feel I learn more then any day of a training I’ve been too. I love the nuance, the expertise, the ability to weave this subject matter to make it useful as well as nonjudgmental, while normalizing the feelings associated. This is my first review on any podcast and maybe my last, because this body of work speaks for itself and is too important to not say anything. Sooo good! 👏

Informative, insightful, caring

Sue and Ann share simple, straightforward insights, great interviews - especially loved Dr. Frank Anderson of IFS. Thank you for your genuine gifts of service to everyone.

MaggersNM - United States

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MaggersNM - United States

Sue and Ann share simple, straightforward insights, great interviews - especially loved Dr. Frank Anderson of IFS. Thank you for your genuine gifts of service to everyone.

So Great!



"This is great - listening to three funny, intelligent women talk about things they know a great deal about is such a pleasure. They’re candour is so affirming!"




CBRPony - Australia - 03/02/2022

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2022-03-08T00:47:44-06:00

CBRPony - Australia - 03/02/2022

"This is great - listening to three funny, intelligent women talk about things they know a great deal about is such a pleasure. They’re candour is so affirming!"

Therapist Uncensored Reaches Across the Gold to Bring Hope!!

I discovered this podcast at a time of crises in my life & relationships. I began with the series of being in challenging relationships then went to the very first talk & have listened to almost every episode! Never again apologize for an episode lasting too long if each episode were 2 hours I would still have listened to them all! This information from your qunie perspectives is a lifeline that if we all knew would shift the destructive dynamics that destroy people & families! Please keep releasing, keep sharing!!

Georgi-Ahau - New Zealand

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2021-12-08T03:00:13-06:00

Georgi-Ahau - New Zealand

I discovered this podcast at a time of crises in my life & relationships. I began with the series of being in challenging relationships then went to the very first talk & have listened to almost every episode! Never again apologize for an episode lasting too long if each episode were 2 hours I would still have listened to them all! This information from your qunie perspectives is a lifeline that if we all knew would shift the destructive dynamics that destroy people & families! Please keep releasing, keep sharing!!

My Favorite Neurobiology/Psychology Podcast

I absolutely love Therapist Uncensored! I am constantly growing my knowledge on Adult Attachment, neurobiology, psychology, and cognitive therapy! And I love being able to incorporate that learning into my life and my relationships. This podcast, and community, is a gift!

Schubesss - United States

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2023-09-18T10:17:22-05:00

Schubesss - United States

I absolutely love Therapist Uncensored! I am constantly growing my knowledge on Adult Attachment, neurobiology, psychology, and cognitive therapy! And I love being able to incorporate that learning into my life and my relationships. This podcast, and community, is a gift!

Super interesting and helpful

As a psychology student I started looking for a podcast on some interesting topics. This is the absolute most interesting podcast I found. I really love how Ann & Sue and their guests present these interesting topics and explain them so clearly. I often share podcast with my fellow students, teachers or even with non-psy friends, because they break the topics down so well. I just finished episode 98 and am still so enthusiastic about this podcast, so I finally subscribed as a Patron to support these amazing women create more content! I can’t wait to continue with the next episode!

Iris_1024 from The Netherlands

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2021-04-02T23:05:03-05:00

Iris_1024 from The Netherlands

As a psychology student I started looking for a podcast on some interesting topics. This is the absolute most interesting podcast I found. I really love how Ann & Sue and their guests present these interesting topics and explain them so clearly. I often share podcast with my fellow students, teachers or even with non-psy friends, because they break the topics down so well. I just finished episode 98 and am still so enthusiastic about this podcast, so I finally subscribed as a Patron to support these amazing women create more content! I can’t wait to continue with the next episode!

Grateful for a phenomenal resource

I love the facts and theories presented! Its easy to absorb complex ideas from this carefully presented podcast. Prepare to be surprised and delighted by what you learn about yourself and your fellow humans! Thanks, TU, for bringing so much ease and security to my life!

warm/cosy sleeper - United States

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2023-09-18T10:22:11-05:00

warm/cosy sleeper - United States

I love the facts and theories presented! Its easy to absorb complex ideas from this carefully presented podcast. Prepare to be surprised and delighted by what you learn about yourself and your fellow humans! Thanks, TU, for bringing so much ease and security to my life!

I’m not a therapist, but I love this show!

My favorite episodes are the ones where it’s just Sue and Ann having their own discussion on a specific topic. I’ve learned so much and I really appreciate how they break concepts down in a way that I can understand it without having a masters degree. I also love their chemistry as co-hosts. Love this show!

allieboo589 - United States

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2023-09-18T10:22:57-05:00

allieboo589 - United States

My favorite episodes are the ones where it’s just Sue and Ann having their own discussion on a specific topic. I’ve learned so much and I really appreciate how they break concepts down in a way that I can understand it without having a masters degree. I also love their chemistry as co-hosts. Love this show!

“Worth listening to!!”


"LOVE this podcast! As a therapist, I refer clients to it all the time. Ann and Sue are super relatable, intelligent, and authentic in every episode. Anyone who geeks out over the neuro & social sciences will find this podcast binge-worth!!"  - Kelley from the United States
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2021-08-24T03:12:14-05:00
"LOVE this podcast! As a therapist, I refer clients to it all the time. Ann and Sue are super relatable, intelligent, and authentic in every episode. Anyone who geeks out over the neuro & social sciences will find this podcast binge-worth!!"  - Kelley from the United States

You have something important to say and I'm grateful you are saying it!

I love you ladies. I get so much from each episode. I am a practicing counselor and it really helps me in my daily work and my personal life. Thank you so much for this show

Angie Land - United States - November 3, 2021

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2021-11-05T18:51:06-05:00

Angie Land - United States - November 3, 2021

I love you ladies. I get so much from each episode. I am a practicing counselor and it really helps me in my daily work and my personal life. Thank you so much for this show

Great Resource for Psych Enthusiasts

Very informative while also being quite pleasant to listen to...

S4Style - Singapore

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2021-12-08T02:56:48-06:00

S4Style - Singapore

Very informative while also being quite pleasant to listen to...

An incredible resource! 

You ever listen to a podcast and think “wow, I can’t believe this is free”? That’s me with Therapist Uncensored. This show is a hugely valuable resource for both therapists and individuals on a path of self-exploration. The conversations Sue and Ann facilitate are always super engaging...

- Oliviabaker13 · United States of America · 08/02/21
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2021-08-12T04:39:06-05:00
You ever listen to a podcast and think “wow, I can’t believe this is free”? That’s me with Therapist Uncensored. This show is a hugely valuable resource for both therapists and individuals on a path of self-exploration. The conversations Sue and Ann facilitate are always super engaging... - Oliviabaker13 · United States of America · 08/02/21

Fantastic

They're smart, clever, interesting, and funny down to earth women are the real deal. I have really stuck gold listening to such deep, meaningful and relevant topics on relationships , evidenced based healing. . I highly recommend this podcast on every level. Inner help, life help and and accessible . Thank- you 🙏💖

Ediebouvier - Australia - November 2, 2021

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2021-11-05T18:53:54-05:00

Ediebouvier - Australia - November 2, 2021

They're smart, clever, interesting, and funny down to earth women are the real deal. I have really stuck gold listening to such deep, meaningful and relevant topics on relationships , evidenced based healing. . I highly recommend this podcast on every level. Inner help, life help and and accessible . Thank- you 🙏💖

Even if you haven’t gone to therapy this is amazing

I rarely write reviews but this podcast needed one. I have been in and out of therapy for three years now. I tend to go all in and be extreme and then I fall off and then I spiral. Well I found this because I’m having major issues with a couple of relationships in my life and I needed to seek out different opinions but didn’t want to go to therapy. And this podcast is helping so much. They are able to bring up concepts and explain them without judging you. It’s really easy to listen to a podcast and feel judged even by licensed therapists. But these women never do. It’s very objective and they give you facts and case studies and explanations for it to really sink in. They do it in a way where you disarm yourself because you feel like they are talking with you, not at you. They go over topics in such a caring way that you can actually take time to self reflect and be aware of your emotions as you listen. Somehow they are able to create a space where you can get very introspective as if you are there with them. And what I also love is how they offer tools for you. So many episodes they will bring up a concept like holding self, and put it in a real life scenario that you’re able to relate to or at least conceptualize it in your own situation. Then they talk about how to address that for yourself either in the moment or after so you really take the time to use the information you were just given. Amazing podcast.

fruitandcatlover - United States

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2023-09-18T10:24:30-05:00

fruitandcatlover - United States

I rarely write reviews but this podcast needed one. I have been in and out of therapy for three years now. I tend to go all in and be extreme and then I fall off and then I spiral. Well I found this because I’m having major issues with a couple of relationships in my life and I needed to seek out different opinions but didn’t want to go to therapy. And this podcast is helping so much. They are able to bring up concepts and explain them without judging you. It’s really easy to listen to a podcast and feel judged even by licensed therapists. But these women never do. It’s very objective and they give you facts and case studies and explanations for it to really sink in. They do it in a way where you disarm yourself because you feel like they are talking with you, not at you. They go over topics in such a caring way that you can actually take time to self reflect and be aware of your emotions as you listen. Somehow they are able to create a space where you can get very introspective as if you are there with them. And what I also love is how they offer tools for you. So many episodes they will bring up a concept like holding self, and put it in a real life scenario that you’re able to relate to or at least conceptualize it in your own situation. Then they talk about how to address that for yourself either in the moment or after so you really take the time to use the information you were just given. Amazing podcast.

Thank you so much for this wonderful, insightful, educational and brave series. Each episode offers important information on the most important areas of psychology and nourish the curiosity of therapists and curious punters alike.

Niknakpsy - Australia

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2021-12-08T02:53:42-06:00

Niknakpsy - Australia

Thank you so much for this wonderful, insightful, educational and brave series. Each episode offers important information on the most important areas of psychology and nourish the curiosity of therapists and curious punters alike.

Favorite Podcast!

I am a therapist and cannot express my appreciation for the education, warmth, and humanness that you bring to navigating relationships. You both are truly blessings and a big thank you for doing this podcast!

SaraBLCSW - United States

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2023-09-18T10:26:58-05:00

SaraBLCSW - United States

I am a therapist and cannot express my appreciation for the education, warmth, and humanness that you bring to navigating relationships. You both are truly blessings and a big thank you for doing this podcast!

Love this podcast ❤️

Love these chats! Invaluable to understanding behaviour, learning to get curious over reactive. This stuff has become even more important to me since becoming a parent. There’s so much talk about domestic violence and coercive control and “what can we do about it? 🤷🏽‍♀️” how about… reassessing our own reactions? Moving to our parental reactions to our own kids? How about helping with emotional development? How about becoming aware of our our own behaviours and reactions to feelings, and in that, naturally passing on these understandings. Amazing. Thank-you 🙏🏽

petagold - Australia

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2023-09-18T10:21:28-05:00

petagold - Australia

Love these chats! Invaluable to understanding behaviour, learning to get curious over reactive. This stuff has become even more important to me since becoming a parent. There’s so much talk about domestic violence and coercive control and “what can we do about it? 🤷🏽‍♀️” how about… reassessing our own reactions? Moving to our parental reactions to our own kids? How about helping with emotional development? How about becoming aware of our our own behaviours and reactions to feelings, and in that, naturally passing on these understandings. Amazing. Thank-you 🙏🏽

Amazing Source!

This podcast brings together all the insightful theories and approaches (attachment, development, neurobiology, survival adaptations, polyvagal, trauma, etc.) in a practical way that really relates to actual real-life processes of development, stuckness, growth, and change. Great appreciation for the nuanced and encompassing approach. I look forward to learning more from the podcast and from their other resources.

EatingOats - The Netherlands - November 4, 2021

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2021-11-05T18:47:13-05:00

EatingOats - The Netherlands - November 4, 2021

This podcast brings together all the insightful theories and approaches (attachment, development, neurobiology, survival adaptations, polyvagal, trauma, etc.) in a practical way that really relates to actual real-life processes of development, stuckness, growth, and change. Great appreciation for the nuanced and encompassing approach. I look forward to learning more from the podcast and from their other resources.

Love this podcast

My favourite podcast at the moment ! Sue & Ann you’ve both empowered me so deeply through these episodes in understanding myself, my internal working model & relationship dynamics so much. Thank you !

LeelaKalyani - Australia

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2023-09-18T10:27:48-05:00

LeelaKalyani - Australia

My favourite podcast at the moment ! Sue & Ann you’ve both empowered me so deeply through these episodes in understanding myself, my internal working model & relationship dynamics so much. Thank you !

Love this podcast!

A friend recommended this podcast, and I’m so grateful. As a clinical social worker myself, I regularly use aspects of whatever I learn in each episode with my clients. It is digestible, accessible, highly clinical, applicable, and fun! I’d recommend this to anyone in a mental health field and also to anyone wanting to improve their own mental health!

Stofte01 - United States

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2023-09-18T10:16:30-05:00

Stofte01 - United States

A friend recommended this podcast, and I’m so grateful. As a clinical social worker myself, I regularly use aspects of whatever I learn in each episode with my clients. It is digestible, accessible, highly clinical, applicable, and fun! I’d recommend this to anyone in a mental health field and also to anyone wanting to improve their own mental health!
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Featured guests include the smartest minds in the relational sciences.

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Arielle Schwartz

Jill Bolte-Tayl0r

Terry Real

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Lou Cossolino

Bonnie Badenoch

Pat Crittendon

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Esther Perel

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Alan Srouf

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Peggy Orenstein

Steve Porges

Tina Payne-Bryson

Deb Dana

Stan Tatkin

Lori Gottlieb

And many, many more deep thinkers and fabulous minds that we interview both to bring you their work, and to continuously integrate new and trusted perspectives into our own thinking and theory of what actually works to heal people.

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Steve Finn

Alphonso Appleton

Ellyn Bader

Dan Brown

Jules Shore

Liz Plank

Bonnie Badenoch

Sarah Peyton

Aby Blakely

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Doug Braun-Harvey

Tina Atkins

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Pam Greenstone

Robyn Gobbel

Linno Rhodes

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Candid unscripted conversations rooted in modern attachment and the newly emerging sciences of the mind will deeply inform, entertain and even surprise you.

Learn how to outsmart your biology and improve your relationships with others.

This podcast will break down what makes you and yours emotionally tick… and tock.  So join us, dive in with co-hosts Sue Marriott & Dr. Ann Kelley, as well as their array of rock-star guest experts.

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SUE MARRIOTT, LCSW, CGP & ANN KELLY, Ph.D.  

Ann Kelley Ph.D. (she/her/hers) and Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP (he/her/hers) are experienced licensed therapists that provide candid and focused education to help you bring awareness to the unconscious patterns in your life that get in your way.

As out, gay married co-hosts they bring in humor and personal insights of the cringy struggle to try to function more securely as a couple, and in the world.  They also provide state of the art education, clinical insights, summaries of complex science and their own developed reflections on how to grow through these life-long patterns.

No matter what your history or what your age, there is hope to keep developing your secure self, which helps grow closeness with those you love.

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Meet Your Cohosts

SUE MARRIOTT, LCSW, CGP & ANN KELLEY, Ph.D.

Ann Kelley Ph.D. (she/her/hers) and Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP (she/her/hers) are experienced licensed therapists that provide candid and focused education to help you bring awareness to the unconscious patterns in your life that get in your way.

As married co-hosts they bring in humor and personal insights of the cringy struggle to try to function more securely as a couple, and in the world.  They also provide state of the art education, clinical insights, summaries of complex science and their own developed reflections on how to grow through these life-long patterns.

No matter what your history or what your age, there is hope to keep developing your secure self, which helps grow closeness with those you love.

ANN KELLY, Ph.D. & SUE MARRIOTT, LCSW, CGP

Deepen your relationships and demystify your own interpersonal blocks by learning how to use the sciences of the mind.

We want to help each of you become a little more secure, not as a feeling but as a neurological fact. If you are interested in learning how to outsmart your biology and transform into the most relational and confident version of you, then you are our people.

Our audience is intentionally wide- it includes everyone from seasoned therapists, students in the field, other professions that can benefit from knowing how to deeply understand people, those injured by early relationships, and those life-long learners interested in staying abreast and helping make the world a little more secure.

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