
Next Live Q&A with Sue & Ann - April 10th!
Course Available Now!
Beyond Attachment Styles:
The Science of Growing Secure Adult Relationships –
Online, self-paced asynchronous course
- Deep-dive into the various defensive activation patterns: secure relating (green zone), defensive relating (blue zone), anxious relating (red zone) and dysregulated relating (tie dye puddles).
- Learn the need to know science behind these automated relational defenses and most importantly, what to do about them. You'll deepen your secure relating capacity & learn to navigate back to the green zone to get from co-dysregulation to security!
- Designed to combine depth and practical accessibility for everyone (6 CEU's available!)
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Brewing Vitality: A Monthly Gathering
Next Session – April 17th at 3:00 PM Central!
Not your average wellness workshop! This is a series of monthly workshops open to anyone wanting to stay awake and alive and secure inside ourselves and between us. Hosted by Dr. Ann Kelley and DeLinda Spain.
- Monthly meetings (90 minutes, virtual)
- Small group discussions fostering genuine connection
- Practical tools grounded in attachment and resilience research
- A no-pressure space to process collective challenges
Multidisciplinary Consultation Group for Helping Professionals
By signing up, you are just saying you are interested.
A unique opportunity to work with Dr. Ann Kelley directly within a small online group setting. We will discuss how attachment and neurobiology impact all of us and ways to build security in ourselves and our important relationships.
NEW Group — Meeting weekly on Tuesdays, $90/session
Note: It is not considered therapy, it is an educational discussion group with deep learning.
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A podcast, a critically-acclaimed book, a fresh online course,
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Why do we do this?
The science is clear and hopeful – and we believe everyone deserves access to it. Working alongside leading experts, we translate complex relational sciences and depth psychology into practical tools that help uncover your authentic self (believe us, your people will be so happy!).
Our approach helps you recognize and update unconscious patterns, creating profound changes in your mind, relationships, parenting, and professional life.
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Connect directly with world-renowned experts and bold new voices who challenge conventional thinking.
Below are a sample of the attachment research pioneers, relational neuroscientists, and cutting edge clinicians included in our episode library.
Now, anyone can learn directly from the smartest minds in the relational sciences at zero cost.
Dr. Dan Siegel
Dr. Arielle Schwartz
Dr. Jill Bolte-Tayl0r
Dr. Diana Fosha
Dr. Carol George
Shadeen Francis
Julian Taylor-Schore
Linda Thai
Dr. Kristen Neff
Dr. Emily Nagoski
Dr. Bonnie Badenoch
Dr. Aditi Sethi
Dr. Bruce Perry
Dr. Frank Anderson
Lori Gottlieb
Dr. David Elliott
Dr. Amish Jha
Dr. Pat Crittendon
Liz Plank
Dr. Dan Brown
Dr. Dacher Keltner
Esther Perel
Matthias Barker
Akilah Riley-Richardson
Dr. Nancy McWilliams
Dr. Steve Finn
Dr. Bruce Eckert
Dr. Steve Porges
Dr. Tina Payne-Bryson
Deb Dana
Stan Tatkin
Dr. Joseph LaDeux
Robyn Gobell
Loretta Ross
We continuously integrate new and trusted perspectives into our clinical thinking and theory as we keep honing in on what actually works to heal people.
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Stan Tatkin
Steve Finn
Alphonso Appleton
Ellyn Bader
Dan Brown
Jules Shore
Liz Plank
Bonnie Badenoch
Sarah Peyton
Aby Blakely
Deb Dana
Doug Braun-Harvey
Tina Atkins
L Brookins
Pam Greenstone
Robyn Gobbel
Linno Rhodes
The Science of Psychotherapy's Becki Mendivil
Susan Ansorge
Bob Schneider
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Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World
Bridging science with actionable insights for daily life & clinical practice.
Endorsed by leading attachment researchers –
yet fun to read!
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We keep the podcast cost-free to provide full access to anyone interested (we are heard in over 200 countries). We also offer a private online community we affectionately call our Neuronerds. By joining for as little as $5 per month, you get an ad-free podcast feed, access to unique connections and educational opportunities and discounts on things we produce – including fun therapy bling. Most importantly to us, you help us provide mental health access to those traditionally left behind.
Candid unscripted conversations rooted in modern attachment and the newly emerging sciences of the mind will deeply inform, entertain and even surprise you.
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Meet Your Cohosts
SUE MARRIOTT, LCSW, CGP & ANN KELLY, Ph.D.
Ann Kelley Ph.D. (she/her/hers) and Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP (he/her/hers) are experienced licensed therapists that provide candid and focused education to help you bring awareness to the unconscious patterns in your life that get in your way.
As out, gay married co-hosts they bring in humor and personal insights of the cringy struggle to try to function more securely as a couple, and in the world. They also provide state of the art education, clinical insights, summaries of complex science and their own developed reflections on how to grow through these life-long patterns.
No matter what your history or what your age, there is hope to keep developing your secure self, which helps grow closeness with those you love.
Meet Your Cohosts
SUE MARRIOTT, LCSW, CGP & ANN KELLEY, Ph.D.
Ann Kelley Ph.D. (she/her/hers) and Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP (she/her/hers) are experienced licensed therapists that provide candid and focused education to help you bring awareness to the unconscious patterns in your life that get in your way.
As married co-hosts they bring in humor and personal insights of the cringy struggle to try to function more securely as a couple, and in the world. They also provide state of the art education, clinical insights, summaries of complex science and their own developed reflections on how to grow through these life-long patterns.
No matter what your history or what your age, there is hope to keep developing your secure self, which helps grow closeness with those you love.
Deepen your relationships and demystify your own interpersonal blocks by learning how to use the sciences of the mind.
We want to help each of you become a little more secure, not as a feeling but as a neurological fact. If you are interested in learning how to outsmart your biology and transform into the most relational and confident version of you, then you are our people.
Our audience is intentionally wide- it includes everyone from seasoned therapists, students in the field, other professions that can benefit from knowing how to deeply understand people, those injured by early relationships, and those life-long learners interested in staying abreast and helping make the world a little more secure.









