Believing Chronic Fatigue – Living with Long Covid, ME/CFS (Myalgic Encepholomyelitis) and Hard to Diagnose Chronic Illnesses (223)

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The 2020 COVID-19 pandemic has had lasting effects on our world – one of the most difficult being long COVID, which has shed light on chronic illnesses worldwide such as ME/CFS…

In this episode, Ann and Sue share their research as well as personal experiences as caregivers for those with the illness and discuss the stigmas, invisibility, psychology of denial, support in advocating for your health, discussion of how to be a supportive caregiver, and secure relating in regards to chronic disease.

 “…the notion is to come to accept something you might not have chosen, and strive to find peace with where you are at now … It's not necessarily about getting back to where you were. It's about growing from where you are today.” – Sue Marriott

Time Stamps for Long Covid and ME/CFS

00:05 – Information about the May Modern Attachment Conference

7:55 – The difference between the names Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

12:21 – How we use attribution error in coping with long COVID

19:04 – Understanding deep fatigue post-infection and the effects

24:42 – Markers of long covid 

32:39 – Touching base with Westernized culture stigmas

34:37 – Impactful ways to emotionally support someone struggling with chronic illness

39:17 – The power in being able to tap in with our bodies

42:11 – Discussion of the book “Grappling with Cure” by Eli Clare

44:15 – Important reminders on taking your medical care seriuosly/advocate for yourself 

Resources for today's episode Long Covid 

Brilliant Imperfection: Grappling with Cure by Eli Clare – A book Sue has been using as a resource for understanding and supporting chronic illness

The Lonely, Isolating, and Alienating Implications of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome – Samir Boulazreg, Samir and Rokach, Ami – NIH Article

Post-Exertional Symptom Exacerbation (PESE) – Long Covid Physio

A discovery in the muscles of long COVID patients may explain exercise troubles – NPR

Controversies related to chronic fatigue syndrome – Wikipedia article

ME/CFS Research Published 26 December 2023 – 1 January 2024 – The ME Association

The psychological impact of COVID-19 on the mental health in the general population – National Library of Medicine, Oxford University Article

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