TU53: Complex Trauma and Managing Dysregulation with Guest Robyn Gobbel

by | Jan 17, 2018 | Attachment, Brain Science, Emotional Intelligence, Episodes, Guest Interviews, Parenting, Relationships, Therapy, Trauma

Show Notes

Loving someone with cumulative and complex relational injuries can be challenging. Learn to manage the impacted neurobiology and relational wounds. This episode addresses both children and adults with complicated attachment histories and gives ideas about how to manage.

Whether it’s your own history or someone you love, let’s be honest – it can be challenging at times to be in very close relationships when early attachment injuries have been layered and ongoing and unaddressed. Threat and unrepaired relational ruptures are encoded in our biology and our neurological systems.

Child and Family Therapist Robyn Gobbel, LCSW joins co-host Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP for a discussion on complex trauma and the importance of boundaries and depersonalizing, especially as a parent. You’ll learn how to best communicate between your partner and child when things get tense and how best to employ structured nurture and scaffolding in those relationships.

Robyn Gobbel – Robyn is the founder of Central Texas Attachment & Trauma Center and specializes in adoption, attachment, and trauma. She leads webinars for parents and clinicians and will be releasing a new podcast soon! Stay tuned!

 Related episodes: Episode 23 Building Grit Through Self-Compassion with Kristen Neff

and Episode 51 Conquer Shame by Understanding the Science Behind the Feeling with Steve Finn




Defining “trauma” and the difficulties in doing so

Neurobiology of trauma

Complex Trauma

Trauma in relationships

Gobbel’s interest in trauma

Gobbel’s focus on working with children, starting early when individual is in safe family space and setting groundwork for the future



Listener question about multigenerational trauma

Self-compassion, acknowledging complex history

Importance of being able to look back and repair rather than aim to be perfect all the time

What happens when one parent/partner is regulated and the other isn’t. If intervention is necessary make sure it’s about compassion rather than accusing the partner of messing up.

What Gobbel has learned from working with parents, children and families: When curiosity and compassion open up, ability to repair greatly increases

Steve Finn and moving from shame to guilt; shame is inherent in complex trauma

Structured Nurture and finding the right balance



Importance of ability to depersonalize, particularly as a parent, in order to have delight around your children

Understanding and how to best employ “scaffolding” in yourself and with your children

Wrap Up



It’s Not You But What Happened to You 

by Chrisitine Courtois

Treating Complex Trauma a Sequenced Relationship-based Approach

By Christine Courtois Julian Ford

Creative Therapies for Complex Trauma Helping Children and Families in Foster Care, Kinship Care or Adoption

Edited by Joy Hasler and Anthea Hendry

Contact Robyn:




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